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97 Is Mary, the queen of heaven, spoken of in Jeremiah? Or is she the “Queen of Heaven” who we call Mary the Mother of Jesus?



One of the titles that we give to Jesus' mother Mary is "Queen of Heaven."  One time a friend pointed out that there is a “queen of heaven” in Jeremiah. This particular Queen of Heaven was not Mary the mother of Jesus, but a Pagan god. "The women knead dough to make cakes for the queen of heaven, while libations are poured out to strange gods in order to hurt me” (Jer 7:18).  Here is a Queen of Heaven" who is in fact a strange GodAnd because the title “Queen of Heaven” is also a title that is given to Mary, this was proof to her that Catholicism is not Christianity, but Paganism.   

And so I asked her, if this particular pagan “queen of Heaven” in Jeremiah is Mary the mother of Jesus? She answered "no."   I then asked her, if this “queen of heaven” was actually in Heaven?  Again, she answered "no, she is a pagan god" once more.   And so then I asked her one final question.  Is it possible that there could be an actual "Queen of Heaven," who is in Heaven?  And she answered "yes, it is possible."   She was in fact correct; not only is it possible, it is probable because there is a “Queen of Heaven” with "a crown of 12 stars," who gave birth to Jesus in Revelations.  Her name is Mary.

"A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.   She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth.  Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems. Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth.

Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth.  She gave birth to a son, a male child [Jesus], destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne” (Rv 12:1-5).  If the male child is Jesus, who was the mother who gave birth to him?  Of course, this was Mary, who we call the “Queen of Heaven” with a crown of twelve stars.  She received this very well.  She did not have an agenda.  She just wanted to know.

One person wrote; “there are many interpretations on Rev 12:5 about the woman.”  Here are some of them; the woman is Mary; the woman is Mary and the Church. These are good interpretations; and at the same time there are some interpretations that are less than adequate. 

In another scenario, they have the Church, minus Mary giving birth to a male child, Jesus.   Yes it is the Church; However, we do not excommunicate Mary from this same Church.   The irony of this is that they admit that the woman is the Church, but don’t seem to realize that Mary is a part of this same Church.  And she is that particular member of this same church, who actually gave birth to Jesus and so why would they exclude her.  

There are some who believe that Mary is not the woman, but a Pagan goddess who is the mother of the male child, Jesus.  This one, I find a little amusing because their anti-Marian sentiment is so great that it is okay for a Pagan goddess to give birth to Jesus while Mary, the very one who actually gave birth to Jesus, cannot be the mother of the male child, Jesus.

Everyone seems to be in agreement with one thing in Revelations 12; the male child is Jesus.  However, it doesn’t actually say, in the text, that the male child is Jesus.   If you wish to hear the sound of silence, just ask someone who believes in the “Bible Alone,” how they know on the basis of the Bible alone that the male child is Jesus when the text does not explicitly say that.  Whatever explanation they give is a violation of their "Bible Alone" tradition because their explanation is not in the Bible.

This of course begs the question; if the text doesn’t actually say, in Revelations 12 that Jesus is the male child then how do we know that He is.  We know this because are Catholic tradition going back to the time of Jesus and the Apostles tells us that Jesus is the male child.  It is interesting that the same people who speak against Catholic traditions have kept some Catholic traditions.   There are some who say, “if it isn’t explicitly in the Bible, we don’t believe it” and here they are believing a Catholic tradition, that is not explicitly in the Bible. 

When it comes to the woman and who she represents, in Revelations 12, I have already pointed out there are a number of contradictory traditions and so whose tradition should I believe?  Should I believe one of the traditions from one of the many Evangelical churches that go back 30 or 40 years, or should I believe a tradition from the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches that goes back 2 thousand years to the time of Christ and the Apostles?  

Also, in fairness to my non-Catholic friends, there are many who do except the woman in Revelations 12 as being Mary and the Church. They have not given up on all Catholic tradition.

Because, there is a queen of heaven in the Bible, who is a Pagan goddess, there are those who claim that Jesus' Mother Mary, as Queen of Heaven, is actually a Pagan goddess.  This of course is false allegation not to be confused with Catholic and Biblical teaching.  Their queen of heaven in Jeremiah 7:18 is a "strange god." The Catholic Queen of Heaven is Mary the mother of Jesus, with a crown of 12 stars, in Revelations 12:1-5. 

Jesus loves his Queen Mother Mary; I love her as well and so should you.